BBC Holmes Adaptation
May. 30th, 2011 07:04 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
jumperfucker1. Premier date has been announced. June 11th! YAY!
2. It's going to be six episodes long, split into two parts, with the second half starting sometime in November. WTF BBC? Why are you doing this? First Doctor Who and now the Holmes adaptation. What's the point!?
3. I've just learned that one of the League of Gentlemen is a writer. ...Not sure if want. Then again, he writes for Doctor Who on occasion, so maybe it's a good thing. I can't tell. Now all I can think is that Mrs Hudson is going to be in blackface and call everyone Dave.
4. The more I hear about this, the more I can't wait, regardless of the points that make me nervous. I don't necessarily trust Moffat, but I trust his abilities, if that makes sense.
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cons_detective came over yesterday and we got him caught up on the current series. When he gets going on a project, he'll lose entire days, so he tends to miss a lot of stuff. He never seems to know the day or date. That's why his artwork is so amazing though. He'll spend hours on it without realising how long he's spent.
He was doing some drawing last night on his laptop and did a wonderful portrait of Matt Smith. Or the Doctor. They're sort of the same person, really. But go take a look at it. One of these days, I'm going to commission him for something. I just have to decide what. It'll have to wait until later though, because right now, he's taking up my entire sofa and drooling on it. Which he will deny as soon as he reads this post.
Potential spoilers in comments, as always.
... Hello, Dave.
2. It's going to be six episodes long, split into two parts, with the second half starting sometime in November. WTF BBC? Why are you doing this? First Doctor Who and now the Holmes adaptation. What's the point!?
3. I've just learned that one of the League of Gentlemen is a writer. ...Not sure if want. Then again, he writes for Doctor Who on occasion, so maybe it's a good thing. I can't tell. Now all I can think is that Mrs Hudson is going to be in blackface and call everyone Dave.
4. The more I hear about this, the more I can't wait, regardless of the points that make me nervous. I don't necessarily trust Moffat, but I trust his abilities, if that makes sense.
Speaking of Doctor Who,
cons_detective came over yesterday and we got him caught up on the current series. When he gets going on a project, he'll lose entire days, so he tends to miss a lot of stuff. He never seems to know the day or date. That's why his artwork is so amazing though. He'll spend hours on it without realising how long he's spent.He was doing some drawing last night on his laptop and did a wonderful portrait of Matt Smith. Or the Doctor. They're sort of the same person, really. But go take a look at it. One of these days, I'm going to commission him for something. I just have to decide what. It'll have to wait until later though, because right now, he's taking up my entire sofa and drooling on it. Which he will deny as soon as he reads this post.
Potential spoilers in comments, as always.
... Hello, Dave.
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Date: 2011-05-30 07:12 am (UTC)And I don't know if I'd call that wonderful. It took me twenty minutes and is full of flaws. The more I look at it, the worse it looks.
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Date: 2011-05-30 07:16 am (UTC)And I think that drawing looks great. I can't even get a stick figure to look good. I don't know how you do that.
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Date: 2011-05-30 07:23 am (UTC)And you have to go in the first place in order to drop out at all.
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Date: 2011-05-30 08:36 am (UTC)Do you think you'll be writing fic for this version of Holmes, or are you going to stick with the classics?
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Date: 2011-05-30 08:40 am (UTC)Aaaaand Mr Busy Body must be tracking this post because he ran for my phone. I think he deleted the picture because I can't find it any more. D:
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Date: 2011-05-30 04:05 pm (UTC)Sherlock Holmes is such a work of its period. A modern adaptation...how does that even work? Without hansom cabs and telegrams and the Baker Street Irregulars, how can it be Sherlock Holmes? Not to mention the whole cocaine thing, which has entirely different connotations today than it did a hundred years ago.
Okay, I'm breathing and repeating my new mantra. I trust the Moff...I trust the Moff... (who's the other guy? I've never seen The League of Gentlemen. What did he write for Doctor Who?)
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Date: 2011-05-30 04:16 pm (UTC)So, here's me. Being hopeful that he won't weird up Holmes. And by weird it up, I mean make it completely terrifying.
But yeah. Exactly. Holmes is sort of a symbol of Victorian London. This young guy they've got cast probably couldn't pull off a top hap or deerstalker for anything. And I'm just having a really hard time imagining Holmes with an internet connection. Why can I just see him spending all day deducing people on Omeggle or something?
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Date: 2011-06-01 10:57 pm (UTC)Does anyone really wear a top hat or a deerstalker nowadays, though? He wouldn't have to be able to pull it off. Who have they cast, anyway? I need to join some new-era comms or something, I'm missing out on all the info! And what about Watson, do we have a name yet? We'll have to do a mustache comparison: Burke, Hardwicke, and Law vs. the new guy.
Holmes spent a lot of time reading the agony columns and such in the newspapers. What would be the modern equivalent, on the internet?
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Date: 2011-06-01 11:43 pm (UTC)I could sort of see modern!Holmes maybe reading blogs or something. They have blogs on everything, ya know. He's bound to find something that interests him.
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Date: 2011-06-02 12:16 am (UTC)I've never seen The Office. I did see some of the HHGG movie, but I had to quit in disgust. I think it was Zaphod's flipping head that finally got to me. Dear God, they didn't cast Zaphod, did they? And if it were Ford, I'd probably have heard the fandom explosion from this side of the pond. (NO AMERICANS IN MY SHERLOCK HOLMES, THANKS.) Please say it was Arthur. His hair was an alarming shade of unnatural, but otherwise he was refreshingly normal.
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Date: 2011-06-02 12:21 am (UTC)Did you know that Trillian was supposed to be half-alien in that one? WHY?
And yeah. Why was most of the cast American. I mean, nothing against the Americans; they're lovely people. But they didn't even try to British it up.
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Date: 2011-06-02 01:21 am (UTC)I say this as a ridiculously sentimental flag-waving American, BTW.
I'M SORRY, I WILL TRY TO STOP SPAMMING YOUR JOURNAL NOW.
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Date: 2011-06-02 01:25 am (UTC)And don't even get me started on what you lot did to Life on Mars. *evil eye*
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Date: 2011-06-02 01:19 am (UTC)Holy crap. This guy? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2007/05/07/images/martin_freeman_int_2.jpg) *stares* I, uh. Yeah. I can get behind that like WHOA. He kinda looks like John Simm, a bit. ETA: Obviously not Blond Crazy John Simm. More like Cal in State of Play.
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Date: 2011-06-02 01:22 am (UTC)I think he looks the part for a Watson. Not sure how he'll actually be, though.
Man, I haven't watched State of Play in forever. How many things are we going to see Philip Glenister, John Simm, and Marc Warren appear in together?
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Date: 2011-06-02 01:33 am (UTC)OK, I LIED ABOUT THE SPAM. SO SHOOT ME.
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Date: 2011-06-02 01:37 am (UTC)Marc Warren is a fine man.
Modern Sherlock
Date: 2011-06-01 08:02 pm (UTC)The part I'm stuck on is what's his contribution to detecting going to be? When ACD wrote him, forensics was in its infancy, so Holmes was doing something few others were doing or could do. Now his methods and skills have gone far in advance of what was available in ACD's time. And we have many more consultants of all types working routinely with the police - profilers and whatnot.
So how will Holmes be original? What can he contribute that doesn't already exist in modern policing, when they can access information and experts instantly and globally via the internet? What can one man add that is unique, true to Sherlock Holmes, and doesn't just make the police look incompetent? That's my concern about the new adaptation.
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Date: 2011-06-01 11:00 pm (UTC)Well, he was really good at that in canon. :D But you're right, it was mostly because they didn't use the same techniques he was using. And nowadays they all do. If they still look incompetent, with all their labs and technology, it's going to kind of tick me off.
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Date: 2011-06-01 11:45 pm (UTC)That would be terrible.
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Date: 2011-06-02 12:19 am (UTC)Well, that's just it - then he's not Sherlock Holmes, he's some other character. There are plenty of those about already.
He's still got to make observations, and then make his deductions; but what's he going to observe that the police overlook? Perhaps he can draw conclusions from seemingly unrelated facts that the police don't connect? But wouldn't that make the police look stupid? I dunno. Wait and see...
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Date: 2011-06-02 12:23 am (UTC)I guess as long as we don't have any dinosaurs showing up, it can't possibly be the worst adaptation ever made.
Re: Modern Sherlock
Date: 2011-06-02 12:40 am (UTC)Sorry, I'm not up on all my Holmeses :-)
Re: Modern Sherlock
Date: 2011-06-02 12:43 am (UTC)The only Holmes adaptation I wasn't able to finish.
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Date: 2011-06-02 03:22 am (UTC)Re: Modern Sherlock
Date: 2011-10-19 07:45 am (UTC)Just fyi
*is scarred for life*
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Date: 2011-05-31 06:33 am (UTC)I've heard rumours that they're doing the Final Problem already, but I can't imagine they'd do it so soon.
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Date: 2011-06-01 11:47 pm (UTC)I'm sure you understand and all.
But now you're making me want to watch LoG with him over sometime. Just to listen to him whinge. It does get kind of entertaining sometimes.
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Date: 2011-06-02 12:45 am (UTC)I can rely on you to report the results when that day comes, surely?
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